Comments on Only In Israel: Corrie's parents and the ISM time machine.

I am baffled when I read the oozing hatred directe...

2006-11-20T20:18:00.000+02:00

I am baffled when I read the oozing hatred directed at Rachel Corrie after her death, by calling her "pancake Corrie." She was one person who is now dead. What ghoulish and perverted delight can these people gain by continually degrading a dead person, and verbally tormenting her parents?

It does not matter at this point who was right or wrong. Rachel injured no one, killed no one,

Part IIWhy anyone wouldn't conclude from that that...

2006-02-08T21:58:00.000+02:00

Part II

Why anyone wouldn't conclude from that that trying to settle the territories didn't engender violent resistance, I find very confusing. what would you do, if you were an Arab, and Jewish settlements were springing up all around you, taking your land for "security purposes." Did we really think they would just take it lying down? Is this really so controversial?

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All attacks count.And what about attempted attacks...

2006-02-08T14:39:00.000+02:00

All attacks count.

And what about attempted attacks?

Or do you plan on protesting to world govenrments to make this not a crime?

You're not getting my point, which you didn't answer.

I did you're just not getting the general point, and being very ignorant (or yet again hiding historical fact)

I read that statistic because Yossi Belin

"You're not getting my point"WOOHOO!

2006-02-07T20:16:00.000+02:00
"You're not getting my point"

WOOHOO!

All attacks count. You're not getting my point, wh...

2006-02-05T07:10:00.000+02:00
All attacks count. You're not getting my point, which you didn't answer. I read that statistic because Yossi Belin quoted it as 20 fatalities, and then CAMERA corrected it as 40. Either way, the fact that it was so low in the decade before the occupation started seems to suggest a correlation in the vulnerability to terrorism. As I look at the stats you supplied, it was reducing leading up to the

To Jewish ISMerAgain, being highly selective1. Cou...

2006-02-04T10:52:00.000+02:00
To Jewish ISMer

Again, being highly selective

1. Could you actually link to that site?

2. Why only from 1957-1967?, why not mention time before that?

3. http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-+Obstacle+to+Peace/Palestinian+terror+before+2000/Which+Came+First-+Terrorism+or+Occupation+-+Major.htm

Heres the site for major attacks. Note that one of the main

"sadly, this kind of aggressive cropping of inform...

2006-01-30T07:04:00.000+02:00
"sadly, this kind of aggressive cropping of information to leave only scraps that benefit his argument (another example is when ISMer tried to counter the fact that even without the "aggressive evil occupation," hundreds of Israelis were killed by terrorists. he tried to shove this under the rug by carefully choosing one 3-year period in which there were just 15 deaths. yuck)seems to be popping

Question to self - Read something from the U.N. or...

2006-01-30T02:21:00.000+02:00
Question to self - Read something from the U.N. or chew on glass?

.....

My mouth is going to be bloody! :-(

Here is the joint declaration by the Palestinian a...

2006-01-29T07:28:00.000+02:00
Here is the joint declaration by the Palestinian and Israeli negotiators at the end of the Taba talks on January 27, 2001, after six days of negotiations:

http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/badaa58661cc084f85256e37006fc44d?OpenDocument

You all need to learn some facts.

ISMer

By the way, there was no 97% offer at Camp David. ...

2006-01-29T01:52:00.000+02:00
By the way, there was no 97% offer at Camp David. Clinton was the first one to go up to a 97% in December, 2000 before Taba. Clinton would not have made a new proposal of 97% in December 2000 if that same proposal had been made at Camp David months earlier. They were negotiating on the basis of that 97% offer at Taba.

The New York Time article I've cited by Deborah Sontag was an

Soldier/blogger,Again, you are either dumb, or del...

2006-01-28T23:13:00.000+02:00
Soldier/blogger,

Again, you are either dumb, or deliberately deceptive.

The Taba talks were held from January 20-27, 2001. Hence it is clear that talks continued after January 2, 2001. You and Manker have repeatedly tried to claim that Arafat ended the talks in Washington on January 2, 2001.

A secondary point, which has no real bearing on this primary point, is

1. You've lied. AGAIN. Dennis Ross was indeed in T...

2006-01-28T21:43:00.000+02:00
1. You've lied. AGAIN. Dennis Ross was indeed in Taba, he resigned a week after the Taba summit has ended.
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/01/18/mideast.03/
Ross, who steps down as Clinton's Mideast envoy this week, said there were times during the 12 years he has been a peace broker "when I felt that the gaps were definitely bridgeable."

2. The point

Soldier/blogger,Sorry, I can't figure out if you a...

2006-01-28T21:21:00.000+02:00
Soldier/blogger,

Sorry, I can't figure out if you are really dumb, or are trying to be deceptive.

Taba occurred from Jan 20-27, 2001, after the January 2 Dennis Ross discussions. Dennis Ross was not in Taba.

I will post this now the 3rd time. I can only conclude that you are clearly trying to avoid dealing with this factual information.

This is from Deborah

Regarding Dennis Ross:Dennis Ross is the only man ...

2006-01-28T21:07:00.000+02:00
Regarding Dennis Ross:
Dennis Ross is the only man cited in this entire comment thread who has actually INSIDE THE ROOM. Prince Bandar was never there. The only eyewitness we have quoted so far, supports my claim. Painting him as pro-Israeli is foolish. The guy's an American negotiator, he speaks the truth.

Now, I'll answer your questions.
1. Because after the intifadeh

Soldier/Blogger,This is a nice trick on your part ...

2006-01-28T19:17:00.000+02:00
Soldier/Blogger,

This is a nice trick on your part and a convenient place for you to end the story, in Washington with Dennis Ross, Prince Bandar, Clinton, Arafat, etc., on January 2, 2001. Dennis Ross, by the way, has come out of his supposedly neutral US government negotiator role and is now shamelessly pro-Israeli. Additionally, Ross is attempting to deflect the blame for his own

First of all, WOW, did this post get ISMer mad. I ...

2006-01-28T16:08:00.000+02:00
First of all, WOW, did this post get ISMer mad. I must be doing something right, and we should all continue watching the ISMs site and expose their various lies.

The reason the date and time are important ISMer, is because the ISM and ORSCP have deliberately changed the dates and time of the posts so that the press release will look authetntic, while in fact being a cover up, written a

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_qdr=all&q=pa...

2006-01-25T09:30:00.000+02:00
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_qdr=all&q=palsolidarity+site%3Aonlyinisrael.blogspot.com&btnG=S%C3%B8g&meta=

Actually, you're right - You don't link to it all the time... or, well, I can't know that since you've probably posted many articles without linking to them. Goes to prove that I actually do not read much of your posts! Man, and I thought I was gonna lose this one, but in

OK Nemesis, let's see you prove that I post from p...

2006-01-24T09:40:00.000+02:00
OK Nemesis, let's see you prove that I post from palsolidarity "all the time". Find those many examples.

This story was one of the rare times that I did use palsolidarity, and it is only one of about eight links that I provided that are from other sources.

ISMer

"I very rarely have actually cited palsolidarity o...

2006-01-24T09:18:00.000+02:00
"I very rarely have actually cited palsolidarity on this blog."

You post links to it all the time.

whoops. . . that weapon analogy didn't really work...

2006-01-23T23:01:00.000+02:00
whoops. . . that weapon analogy didn't really work there because it doesn't match what happened with the territories so well

but i think the point still holds that it makes sense to that some kind of peace agreement should be required before giving land in the heart of your country back to people who want to kill you.

why do people like ISMer continually point to a co...

2006-01-23T22:56:00.000+02:00
why do people like ISMer continually point to a conveniently cropped and pruned resolution 242?

they try to use it as a statement that says "Israel must leave territories no matter what, regardless of what the other side is doing"

for these territories (which could be, would be, and in many cases were used as ground from which to attack israel)to be returned, as I read it, the

Nemesis, if you really have problems with the cons...

2006-01-23T21:57:00.000+02:00
Nemesis, if you really have problems with the conservative, establishment New York Times that facilitated the US' disastrous war in Iraq, what can I say. Maybe you should read the neo-con Wall Street Journal. Bibi and Dore, among others, regularly write opeds for them. Perhaps that would be more to your liking. Maybe you are a fan of Carolyn Glick at the JPost as well? I very rarely have

I wasn't refering to what you quoted this time, ju...

2006-01-23T21:28:00.000+02:00
I wasn't refering to what you quoted this time, just what you usually do - palsolidarity.org and haaretz.com. Seriously, what's up with Haaretz? Why always Haaretz?

FYI: The New York Times is far, far, far from being a neutral source. The International Court of Justice, well... the name says it all, and I believe I mentioned examples like it in my post above: Taking things out of context.

Yes Nemesis,I imagine it must be really hard for y...

2006-01-23T21:10:00.000+02:00
Yes Nemesis,

I imagine it must be really hard for you to take in information from the awful, anti-Israeli propaganda websites that I have linked to and quoted from over the last days, like:

-the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs (re Israeli deaths)
-Jerusalem Post (re the Corries)
-The New York Times (re Camp David and Taba)
-The New York Review of Books (re Camp

ISMer, you said - "So whatever I cite will not be ...

2006-01-23T11:02:00.000+02:00
ISMer, you said - "So whatever I cite will not be enough for you."

That's because all you do is quote palsolidarity.org, haaretz.com and various legitimate sources when you need to pull stuff out of context. Still on the same topic, I feel I can be honest with you here - I don't read what you quote or what you say for the most part because reading it would cause me great mental pain and