tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post114152243795988972..comments2007-04-17T06:28:39.835+03:00OnlyInIsraelnoreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1143399169052689292006-03-26T20:52:00.000+02:002006-03-26T20:52:00.000+02:00

OnlyinIsrael, ISMer will have a bright future as an anti-Israel college professor (which is a bit redundant).

Jason Lomberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12001156933071872554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1143326287694107262006-03-26T00:38:00.000+02:002006-03-26T00:38:00.000+02:00

ISMer, let me respond to your points one by one.<BR/>The anti-terrorism barrier is being built where it is needed, security wise. The notion that 80% of it is built on Palestinian land is ridiculous, because even the parts of it that are beyond the Green Line are usually very close to it. The land on the Israeli side of the fence doesn't change properties. The same Palestinians who owned it,

OnlyInIsraelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00352369368026366541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1143031563326917442006-03-22T14:46:00.000+02:002006-03-22T14:46:00.000+02:00

"Bil'in is dead"? How can that be when the village continues to protest?<BR/><BR/>"The anti-terrorist barrier near Bil'in is almost complete?"<BR/><BR/>Well, thanks to Bil'in protests and the attention that they drew to land seizure and settlement construction on Bil'in's land, Israel's "High Court of Justice yesterday gave the state 30 days to explain why houses built illegally in the Matityahu

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1142601044203603502006-03-17T15:10:00.000+02:002006-03-17T15:10:00.000+02:00

Regarding Gershom Gorenberg's recent comments in the NY Times, please read <A HREF="http://www.israpundit.com/2006/?p=473" REL="nofollow"><B>The Real Tragedy in Israel</B></A>.<BR/><BR/>Shabbat Shalom!

Shy Guynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1142352025808597622006-03-14T18:00:00.000+02:002006-03-14T18:00:00.000+02:00

A perfect example of Far Left spin---please note that that was CRITICISM of From Time Immemorial, not a defense, that was posted. "Selective omission is a form of lying" doesn't sound like a defense of Peters or anyone else who practices it. Your political agenda has so befogged your brain that you can't process the truth any more.<BR/><BR/>Aside from which, who appointed you the arbiter of

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1142331374315193202006-03-14T12:16:00.000+02:002006-03-14T12:16:00.000+02:00

Dear Anonymous Writer,<BR/><BR/>Most of the people who post on this site are relatively rightwing. However, as a defender of Joan Peters thoroughly discredited and now completely forgotten "From Time Immemorial", you have staked out new rightwing ground.<BR/><BR/>Congratulations.<BR/><BR/>ISMer

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1142288955208782992006-03-14T00:29:00.000+02:002006-03-14T00:29:00.000+02:00

Yes. Selective out-of-context quoting, which was the basis of Left-wing and Palestinian criticism of From Time Immemorial, applies just as validly to pseudo-intellectual anti-Israel writers. Selective ommission is a form of lying.<BR/><BR/>Funny how you only quote Meron when there are ample sources out there that disagree with him on the issue of international law and the legality of settlements.

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1142253822826217442006-03-13T14:43:00.000+02:002006-03-13T14:43:00.000+02:00

Hi All,<BR/><BR/>Well I'm glad we are having more of a substantive debate here. Funny how someone like Nemesis will claim I present no facts and just speculate, while what see above from most posters here is just venom and personal attacks on me and other people, nothing factual,<BR/><BR/>When I present carefully sourced facts, historical research, maps, websites, it all gets discounted

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1142220046693983462006-03-13T05:20:00.000+02:002006-03-13T05:20:00.000+02:00

Speak for yourself, Brainhell...Cogito, ergo sum, ad infinitum, especially when it comes to the fossilized Leftys who haven't figured out The Sixties ARE over, like Gorenblather and ISMer--like their intellectual forebears, the Left of the Thirties, they fall willingly into bed with Fascism (whether Aryan, as then, or Arab, as now) in the name of a self-aggrandizing anticolonialism that is

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1142204427621799682006-03-13T01:00:00.000+02:002006-03-13T01:00:00.000+02:00

> Are there people who are still responding to ISM...?<BR/><BR/>Because he fills a need. It's not all of us who are lucky to have opponents who perfectly suit the rhetorical ammunition we have stored up. Without ISMer, y'all'd have to do some actual thinking.

brainhellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02503709622888691582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1142177475405130092006-03-12T17:31:00.000+02:002006-03-12T17:31:00.000+02:00

Are there people who are still responding to ISM loser? Why waste your time reading his garbage and responding to it?<BR/><BR/>I guess you must feel sorry for the poor bastard. He obviously has no life- certainly no sex life-and comes here to get the attention he so desperately craves-and you people give it to him. Very nice of you to make this loser feel like a somebody.

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1142142751829620292006-03-12T07:52:00.000+02:002006-03-12T07:52:00.000+02:00

Gershon Gorenberg is an "Israeli writer' only by virtue of having fled the radical San Francisco/Berkely Bay Area scene and moved to Israel--as far as I know, he barely speaks Hebrew, never served in the IDF and has done nothing but spew left-wing anti-Israel propaganda columns for which various English-language journals pay him. Amos Oz, he ain't. I know the family, and they all get off on being

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1142008892294931382006-03-10T18:41:00.000+02:002006-03-10T18:41:00.000+02:00

Well, Nemesis, this was an article written in the New York Times by Israeli writer Gershom Gorenberg. If you don't like The New York Times, you can go read Gorenberg's new book on the subject instead.<BR/><BR/>Better yet, why don't you read the legal opinions quoted by Gorenberg from Theodor Meron Legal Council to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs in 1967. But I guess you know more about

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1142006840742281302006-03-10T18:07:00.000+02:002006-03-10T18:07:00.000+02:00

*sigh*<BR/><BR/>Don't say facts get in our way when the only "evidence" you ever present is palsolidarity or the New York Times, but then again, we ALL know where the New York Times' sympathies lie. Geneva conventions, ahhh yes. Only problem with that logic is that all land taken by Israel has been taken during several wars against its very existance. When you launch a war against someone, and

Nemesis6http://www.blogger.com/profile/18361723322887052724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1142001126040855252006-03-10T16:32:00.000+02:002006-03-10T16:32:00.000+02:00

"Easily rebuttable speculative arguments":<BR/><BR/>1) Well let's see. The photo is quite obviously speculative. We have no actual information about what happened. We don't know if the old man was stealing the baton. We don't even really know why the old man is bleeding. Soldier/blogger brought us that speculation.<BR/><BR/>2) I bring you maps, quotes, historical articles and reports.

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1141922777233147982006-03-09T18:46:00.000+02:002006-03-09T18:46:00.000+02:00

Just a simple question, in the first picture.<BR/><BR/>On the very top of the picture, follow the heads ot he palestinians and you'll see this guy holding his arms up. I can't tell if it's a shadow or if it's a camera. If it's a camera, well then it becomes fairly obvious that the ISM is trying to stage or provoke the IDF.<BR/><BR/>and one more thing<BR/><BR/><I>In fact to me, looking at how they

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1141868222439917802006-03-09T03:37:00.000+02:002006-03-09T03:37:00.000+02:00

I concur. He's not the brightest tool in the bunch, but it makes me happy to know that no matter how I might feel about myself, there's always ISMer. Upon pondering that fact, my day brightens up, I crack a smile, and I'm ready to face the day with more energy and motivation. Finally, I think "It could be worse. You could be the media coordinator for the ISM like ISMer"<BR/><BR/>Anyway, note that

Nemesis6http://www.blogger.com/profile/18361723322887052724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1141868216238370502006-03-09T03:36:00.000+02:002006-03-09T03:36:00.000+02:00

Happy for ISMer being here??Well,er no,not exactly....

Grandmahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07097092107383782173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1141863051147860182006-03-09T02:10:00.000+02:002006-03-09T02:10:00.000+02:00

Correct. No effort needed to refute his brand of egregious retardation.

roflmaonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1141847508962349952006-03-08T21:51:00.000+02:002006-03-08T21:51:00.000+02:00

I think some of you are so happy for ISMer being here. That way you don't have to think.

brainhellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02503709622888691582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1141807324024291192006-03-08T10:42:00.000+02:002006-03-08T10:42:00.000+02:00

Yes, the old man is helping the soldier up. Also, the guy on the left is doing some kind of dance. Give me a break. <BR/><BR/>ISMer, I guess if you looked at that photo long enough, you could also conclude that the soldier is actually a Martian. I mean, being ignorant of the facts is one thing. But willful ignorance in full view of the facts is quite another.

Jason Lomberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12001156933071872554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1141754836549211172006-03-07T20:07:00.000+02:002006-03-07T20:07:00.000+02:00

It is unfortunate that the photos prove nothing. Here are two extreme scenarios illustrating that the photos prove nothing:<BR/><BR/>1) Angry old man and cunning angry youths decide to attack soldier. They shove and kick and shove. Camera goes click.<BR/><BR/>2) Contemptuous soldier strikes innocent old man. Angry old man grabs baton as outraged youths kick and shove. Camera goes click.<BR/>

brainhellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02503709622888691582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1141697462944760142006-03-07T04:11:00.000+02:002006-03-07T04:11:00.000+02:00

Perhaps it is something ISMer smokes or drinks.....

Grandmahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07097092107383782173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1141685830766083862006-03-07T00:57:00.000+02:002006-03-07T00:57:00.000+02:00

The man is 'helping' him up? Hilarious. ISMer is a total idiot who expects us to believe that while his comrades are attacking IDF soldiers the old man was 'helping' the soldier and got a cracked head in return? Fast and loose with the truth - ISM has no credibility.<BR/><BR/>"Illegal annexation"? Nothing is being annexed you fool. There is no other sovereign in the disputed territories after

roflmaonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5321884.post-1141683656375406812006-03-07T00:20:00.000+02:002006-03-07T00:20:00.000+02:00

That's funny, ISMer. If the old man is helping the soldier get back up onto his feet, how do you explain the guy to the left who is trying to stomp on the soldier's legs? And the guy to the right, whose intentions also don't exactly look peaceful?

Womblenoreply@blogger.com